Sunday, September 21, 2025

9/16/25 Friends of Charlie Kirk Podcast Notes

 9/16/25 Friends of Charlie Kirk: Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro, and Michael Knowles (Interesting discourse between 3 who do not always agree)

https://salemnewschannel.com/host/charlie-kirk/full-episodes

Charlie’s principles:

-go to where the people are 

-go to the people who disagree with you 

-go do Biblical, values, and political outreach

convince people they need to make a choice 

-prove me wrong was about asking simple questions as truths can’t be proven wrong 


Points made:

-can’t have unity with people who celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk

-there are always people we can convince

-people need to make that choice

-they must choose to side with the demons or the side in civil discourse

-marketplace cannot survive if you just kill it off 

-the people who celebrate murder illuminates the other side

-an employer doesn’t owe the employee a job if they do not reflect

-and employer has the freedom to choose who works for them


It works both ways:

-speech being cancelled= true, normal, and right

-speech being cancelled= objectively vile and even illegal 

-right = no institutional power over them

-left= has institutional power

-the battle is the truth vs. a lie 

-harness the beating heart of America

-sharpen you mind=campus tent revivals (Charlie’s legacy)


Problem: no internal accountability 

Clips of Charlie haters: What they perceive

-take the failures in their own lives who externalize those into a shadowy group of people who are responsible for all of their own failures

-and then you say those who are victimizing me to the point of they are erasing me (ex. trans-genocide)

-then you say if those people who are trying to kill me then its self-defense

-speech has become violence

-justifies that its self defense for me to shoot someone like Charlie to silence their words of violence 


Clip of a young woman asking why are you so hateful?

 -She perceives facts as hate because it is a denial of her sense of identity and a sense of threat that justifies violence

-violence is the after effect

-extreme ideologies result in extreme violence ex. BLM and Islam

-conspiracy theory that all our failures are the fault of these other people

-these people are trying to harm us therefore we are justified in doing violence to them

-by their very existence they are harming me

-they are evil for just existing

-not surprising murdering people is celebrated as it is looked on as liberating the world of their evil existence

-post fact justification after the murder

-most political debates do not end in killing someone

-vast majority of political violence is not from the right

-medias and politicians try to classify killing by the left differently


Freedom of Speech:

Response to Pam Bondi (she cleared up her statement)

-hate speech is illegal

-threats of incitement are illegal

-celebrating the killing of Charlie is not illegal, but does have social consequences

-Antifa is now identified as a terrorist group

-they give money to groups inciting violence


****Stephen Miller clip: 

-we have to route out the people who are funding the violence 

-we need to have an organized strategy to go after the organizations that are promoting violence in this country. 


***Unfocused anger or blind rage is not a productive emotion (Stephen Miller)

-Focused anger, righteous anger directed for a just cause is one of the most important agents of change in human history


Channel all of the anger:

-we have to follow the money over the organized campaign that led to this assassination

-a goal to uproot and dismantle these terrorist networks:

-organized doxing campaigns

-organized riots

-organized street violence

-organized campaigns of dehumanization vilification

-posting people’s addresses

-combining that with messaging designed to uproot the triggers that incite violence in the organized cells that those who carry out and facilitate the violence 

-it is a vast domestic terror movement


****Goal: to identify, disrupt, dismantle, and destroy these networks and make America safe again for the American people


How do we restore order?

-the left has a monopoly on violence

-conservatives do not turn to violence

-the left are enemies of western civilization

-they want to dismantle and tear down patriarchy

-as conservatives we want to  conserve western civilization

-we have disagreements on how to do this but we are all fans of civilization

-we understand that we just walk up to a guy and just shoot him

-we know we can’t have that to have a civilized country

-these assassinations are what we see in 3rd world countries

-we fundamentally know this is a bad thing

-the left do not see civilization itself being a good thing

-violence is always a tool in their arsenal

-the religious right see a God centered ordered universe

-we can discern

-we have a duty in the world to act within that universe in rational ways

-we have duties to God to do the things that God told us to do

-we are told not to kill people (not to murder people) 

-if you do not believe any of that and you believe the world is just a system of power that every argument is a guise for power and that all arguments at their essence are just a way of me getting power over you then the response to the attempt to get power over you is to use power in response and that leads to revolutionary violence

-left that is so nihilistic in its desire to see every argument silenced

-Charlie was killed to silence the argument

-It was the thing he died doing

-he was making the argument

-to many annihilationist's see the argument as just a form of power that is to be met with a bullet 

-warnings from Charlie


Now what?

-we have a fork in the road

-we must in our power to make sure America doesn’t fray

-he wanted revival not revolution

-he wanted the blood of Jesus not blood in the streets 

-he wanted a country that his kids could inherit and be prosperous and thrive

-his tone was revival

-the left doesn’t have the same tone

-the great rational leftist model = slice and dice them 

-media and politicians in their nice studios push violence and defend the leftist lunatic that carries the violence out in our streets 


-do not neglect the the law-do not neglect the politics of our country 


***justice contained by the authorities and the structures that we the people voted for vs. anarchy in the streets 

-we need unity that is not just random


We unite for what? What purpose? To do what? Around what? 

-conservatives unite by putting aside squabbles

-we mourn with each other

-unite as friends/the enemy in the battle on the battlefield

-you can’t have any marketplace of any kind if you shoot up the marketplace 

-the loud and widespread celebration shows us that 

-step 1: we want to have a robust conversation in a good country

-step 2: question mark-no liberty is no order-cultural response-government to do its job

-step 3: flourishing and speaking and national unity 


Closing:

-we trust Charlie

-get back to Christ

-keep the Maga coalition together and grow it bigger

-conservatives unite stop squabbling 

-focus on long term unity

-big movement change

-reasoning Charlie went out to talk to people who disagree 

-build around those core values

-Bible, free markets, family, coalition around values he lost his life for


***Be better = personal accountability = own your mistakes and your successes